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GRAWA
and Dataflow Presented a CLE
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Jennifer
Natalie, 2006/07 CLE Committee Chair and Elaine Cole, 2005/06
CLE Committee Chair
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GRAWA
and Dataflow presented a CLE “The Divas of Domestic Relations: Nancy
Peck and Joan O'Byrne,” on Wednesday evening, June 28, at Joan's historic
home on Prince St. Sixteen women attorneys heard Joan and Nancy's
perspectives on topics such as custodial evaluations and managing
the difficult client.
Nancy
shared tips on how to keep your client under your control while at
the same time integrating his or her participation into the case.
Clients will remember about 25% of what they hear if they
are highly stressed, Nancy said, which is often the case in matrimonial
disputes, so she gives each client a written description of the process
their case will take, and an explanation of the law that governs it.
She also thoroughly explains her office procedures, for example, how
soon client calls are returns. She trains her staff so they are part
of her team. They know enough to date stamp every document and send
a copy to the client the day it is received, whether their attorney
is present that day or not.
Nancy
often gives her clients “homework” after an appointment; something
to work on to make them invested in the process. She tells them, “I
don't have to live with the result, you do.” To discourage excessive
telephone calls and e-mails, she suggests her clients make a list
of their questions and bring it to the next appointment.
She
shared her experiences with the “scary and damaged”, and suggests
that all domestic relations practitioners have psychological training
for help in dealing with the extraordinarily disturbed client. She
warns that depressed clients who suddenly become happy and calm, like
a load has been lifted, may have resolved to commit suicide. Know
who their therapist is and don't be afraid to call him, she advised.
If
a client is threatening or combative to the point where you can not
properly serve your other client, she said that is the time to get
out of the case.
Joan
discussed trends in custody disputes. “Twenty years ago, Mom was practically
guaranteed custody, child support, and maintenance. Now, thanks to
New York's Child Support Standards Act, there is more of a financial
reason to obtain custody.” Further, Joan pointed out, today's fathers
are not content to be “Disneyland Dads.” They want to be as involved
as they were when the family was intact.
A
trend in downstate custody cases is the reliance on custodial evaluations.
Courts are ordering the parents and children to undergo psychological
evaluations by a therapist. Some of the courts are relying on the
therapist's report, instead of the testimony from the parties, to
make the custody determination. This trend has not taken a firm hold
here, she said, but warns that it may come. She and Nancy agreed that
the report is full of hearsay because the therapist's conclusions
are drawn from what the therapist was told by teachers, employers,
or counselors. Both practitioners advised that lawyers oppose any
request for custodial evaluations unless they are certain the adverse
party has severe psychological problems. You never know what's going
to surface in the report, warned Joan. “Your best witness in a custody
case is your own client,” she said. A parent doesn't have to be bright
or articulate to be a good parent. She just has to “be there” for
her children.
Also,
few people in Rochester have the credentials to do these evaluations
properly. “Never underestimate the power of the lack of credentials,”
Joan advised.
Nancy
and Joan agreed that the most important document in the file is the
client data sheet. They suggested the client fill out a fact sheet
with relevant dates of births and marriages, and contact information
for the spouse and children. Medical information is critical, too.
Having the client fill it out assures that the attorney will not be
accused of having made a mistake, Nancy advised. Both attorneys suggested
it be attached to the front of the file, accessible every time you
work on the case.
Jennifer
Natalie, GRAWA's CLE chair asked how these busy practitioners handle
the stress of their practices. Nancy says “be good to yourself. I
work out daily.” Joan plays a mean game of tennis and tends her extensive
gardens herself.
Attendees
praised the program's informality, the gracious setting, and the opportunity
to hear the kind of advice you can't get from any book.
Joan's
home was built by Hiram Sibley, the founder of Western Union. It was
placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1974. Many U.
S. presidents have been guests there. Joan treats her home as an architectural
gem and a public trust, and enjoys showing it off to guests.
The
event was slated to be held outdoors on the patio overlooking the
grounds, but rain poured down as guests arrived. Elaine Cole, moderator
of the program, quipped, “The
Lord must have said, ‘these women put asunder what I have joined together;
let it rain on them'.”
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Lonny
Dolin and Patricia Foster |
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Joan
O'Byrne and Lonny Dolin |
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Jeanne
Colombo and Lisa Morris |
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Cecily
Molak, Elaine Cole and Valerie Milonas |
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June
Castellano in the Solarium at Joan's House |
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CLE
Presenters -- Nancy Peck and Joan O'Byrne |
View
of Gardens from Joan's House |
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Jeanne
Colombo and Marcia Menard, Jeanne's paralegal |
Michelle
Cimino and Elaine Cole |
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View
of Gardens from Joan's House |